tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post2737977758530831172..comments2023-09-23T05:56:35.265+12:00Comments on MandM: Unions and Regard for Innocent Third-PartiesMandMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02694636663826784480noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-82869435968820457502008-12-14T22:49:00.000+13:002008-12-14T22:49:00.000+13:00Godwin proved right in only 5 comments!While the N...Godwin proved right in only 5 comments!<BR/><BR/>While the Nazi's weren't Communists, they clearly were left wing based on their party policies.<BR/><BR/>Further, there is nothing wrong with allowing unions or any self identifying group. No one is saying they should be banned. Madeleine was merely pointing out their bullying behaviour; which, while not necessary for a union, seems to be too common for them.bethyadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990677679970591625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-7761439970950486902008-12-14T14:20:00.000+13:002008-12-14T14:20:00.000+13:00Yes down with communism and bossy trade unionists!...Yes down with communism and bossy trade unionists! In Germany in the 30s they had a leader who dealt with communism/trade unionists and also got the motorways running. NZ needs a leader like that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-69052396135183185332008-12-14T13:57:00.000+13:002008-12-14T13:57:00.000+13:00The union people that Madeleine encountered clearl...The union people that Madeleine encountered clearly have the arrogance that is typical of Marxists: we are right, what we want is most important, and to hell with anyone else.<BR/><BR/>I have viewed a number of member's magazines from the Service & Food Workers Union (I call it the Rabid Red Rag) and they're always bleating on about businesses as the enemy of the workers.<BR/><BR/>What they forget is that businesses generate wealth for the workers, and that businesses aren't exploiting the workers ( a lie straight from the Communist Manifesto). Rather, it's a simple trade: time and labour in return for money.<BR/><BR/>Unions also forget that profits aren't evil, rather they are an entrepreneur's reward for his time and the financial risk he has taken in running the business. No profit = no wealth for the workers.<BR/><BR/>IMHO the unions care little about the workers and care much about advancing Socialism/Marxism:<BR/><A HREF="http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/update-unions-support-for-the-labour-party/" REL="nofollow">http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2008/10/24/update-unions-support-for-the-labour-party/</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>The Socialists/Marxists in power favour the unions:<BR/><A HREF="http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/response-from-the-electoral-commission/" REL="nofollow">http://kiwipolemicist.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/response-from-the-electoral-commission/</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-36855774975943608632008-12-14T10:18:00.000+13:002008-12-14T10:18:00.000+13:00It was the middle of the day so the noise complain...It was the middle of the day so the noise complaint would be unlikely to fly. Also if you read the Worker's Party page on the Pak n Save protest they cited some law enabling them to protest that overrides other laws.<BR/><BR/>What Madeleine ommitted and the Workers Party left out too was that when she gave up in digust she decided to take the kids out to get away from the noise. I came home just as she was piling them into the car so she was telling me about her attempts to talk to them as we pulled out of the driveway.<BR/><BR/>We were in full view of the protestors and Madeleine said she had gone from talking to them straight to the car, not back inside, so there was no mistaking her or her car yet they still yelled abuse at us for not beeping at them as we drove past them.<BR/><BR/>Now that Madeleine has written this and left a complaint on the Worker's Party blog I worry we will wake up to spray painted abuse on our property or a brick through the window. Unionists are frequently nasty people.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04354340839915905028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-23052741657846114362008-12-13T23:01:00.000+13:002008-12-13T23:01:00.000+13:00I was under the impression that Foodstuffs was mor...I was under the impression that Foodstuffs was more reasonable than Progressive Enterprises. Not that I know that much about the 2 companies.<BR/><BR/>I think unions theoretically can have their place, they are able to provide individuals with information that is difficult for them to know, like what the market rate for their services roughly is. But they tend to make claims about what they think wages should be rather than what they are, they are more concerned for those who have jobs over those who can't find employment in that area, and they make unhelpful demands that worsen industrial relations and increase costs without increasing production thus inflating prices that their workers they represent then have to pay for.<BR/><BR/>Are you allowed to complain to the police for the excessive noise?bethyadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990677679970591625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-7146151702585902432008-12-13T18:06:00.000+13:002008-12-13T18:06:00.000+13:00That sounds truly awful. Some of these people are...That sounds truly awful. Some of these people are so much about their own rights (ie completely selfish) they forget about the rights of others.Lucia Mariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10485990994973953860noreply@blogger.com