tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post5767295746992196360..comments2023-09-23T05:56:35.265+12:00Comments on MandM: Sunday Study: Did Christ Abolish the Old Testament Law? Part IMandMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02694636663826784480noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-87395114506606979022009-06-09T23:31:21.000+12:002009-06-09T23:31:21.000+12:00Tbis is a quick comment, but you are missing a vit...Tbis is a quick comment, but you are missing a vital part to the whole message of obedience to the law that is; what law are you talking about??? Is it the law of moses? which are the ceremonial laws, sacrifises, feasts and cermonial days which is writen by the hand of Moses. Or is it the Law if God, ie the Ten Commandments, writen on stone by the finger of God. <br /><br />Two very different laws and two very diffent reasons for them. Law of Moses was a Shadow of things to come, each ceremony represents Christ's ministry. And the Ten Commandments representing the Character of God.<br /><br />The reason for the need to seperate the two laws is that if you don't the bible contradicts itself for example<br /><br />Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; <br /><br />Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. <br /><br />so one text says something is nailed to the cross the other says, blessed is they that DO his commandments. Confused? here's a hint, God doens't want you to kill/hate, steal, lie, take another persons wife or to worship another God. <br /><br />Can we keep the commandments ourselves?<br /><br />Tit 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, <br />Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; <br /><br />the answer is no, only by the grace of God we can.<br /><br />The answers are all in the bible don't need to go anywhere eles, solo scriptura!Dannynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-22850196913205390502009-06-03T21:52:16.000+12:002009-06-03T21:52:16.000+12:00Thanks Matt. Made me think.
Am I required to keep...Thanks Matt. Made me think.<br /><br />Am I required to keep the law?<br /><br />Well I have just finished reading <br />'A year of living biblically' by AJ Jacobs. He tries and keeps every law in the bible for a year. Very funny, and insightful book about one mans spiritual journey for a year. <br /><br />After reading the book, it is a comedy book, I couldn't get out of my head how - when he kept the laws - his faith and spiritual life actually deepened.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Recent blog post: <a href="http://ozymandiaswarning.blogspot.com/2009/06/procrastination-and-school-reports.html" rel="nofollow">Procrastination and School Reports</a>Ozy Mandiasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-81889137319715084822009-06-03T18:11:51.000+12:002009-06-03T18:11:51.000+12:00Matt
I agree that justification is just one issue,...Matt<br />I agree that justification is just one issue, that does not resolve everything. The problem is that the question "are we required to obey the law" is to vague. I look forward to your "distincions".<br /><br />Recent blog post: <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BlessedEconomist/~3/qD_3P0V8oy8/tens-and-hundreds-14-by-church.html" rel="nofollow">Tens and Hundreds (14) - by Church</a>RonMcknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-23094901856333064262009-06-03T15:37:59.000+12:002009-06-03T15:37:59.000+12:00I see your point about justification, I am not sur...I see your point about justification, I am not sure however it really resolves the issue. There is still the question of what we are required to do, are we required to obey the law. Jesus seems clearly to say we are, Paul seems to say that we are not, I think this can be resolved once some important distinctions are drawn but I don't know that the justification issue addresses it. <br /><br />Recent blog post: <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mandmblog/~3/Qk7Al8YRKF4/how-to-find-david-bain-re-trial.html" rel="nofollow">How to Find the Reported Judicial Decision on the David Bain Re-Trial</a>Mattnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-19983883332868411662009-06-03T15:35:45.000+12:002009-06-03T15:35:45.000+12:00Hi Ron
I see your distinction between the law bei...Hi Ron<br /><br />I see your distinction between the law being used for justification and Christs comments. Not sure however if it resolves the issue, because the question still remains as to wether we are obligated to follow the law, Christ did appear to say we are required to do this and Paul seems to say that Gentile Christians are not required to follow the Kosher laws. <br /> I think there is a way of resolving this, but simply noting the law does not justify doesn't seem to be an answer. <br /><br /><br /><br />Recent blog post: <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mandmblog/~3/Qk7Al8YRKF4/how-to-find-david-bain-re-trial.html" rel="nofollow">How to Find the Reported Judicial Decision on the David Bain Re-Trial</a>Madeleinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-53982145605126859092009-06-01T21:38:01.000+12:002009-06-01T21:38:01.000+12:00Interesting article Matt. This is an important to...Interesting article Matt. This is an important topic.<br /><br />The apostles were talking about being justified by keeping the Law of Moses. The law seems to be useless for that.<br />I am not sure that Jesus was talking about justification when he said that the law has not been abrogated.<br /><br />What is the purpose of the law?<br /><br />Recent blog post: <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/BlessedEconomist/~3/oAcjAkrG6Ko/tens-and-hundreds-12-modern-society.html" rel="nofollow">Tens and Hundreds (12) - Modern Society</a>RonMcknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-30094903371266603652009-06-01T16:32:47.000+12:002009-06-01T16:32:47.000+12:00I'll keep an eye out for the rest of this seri...I'll keep an eye out for the rest of this series. This is a very common issue that people bring up to criticise Christians with, and a complicated one to answer. I'll be keen to read your detailed thoughts. Good on you tackling it.<br /><br />Recent blog post: <a href="http://sjdennis.wordpress.com/2009/05/29/thesis-completed/" rel="nofollow">Thesis completed!</a>Mr Dennisnoreply@blogger.com