tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post6838072917725727214..comments2023-09-23T05:56:35.265+12:00Comments on MandM: Abortion and Capital Punishment and Craig YoungMandMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02694636663826784480noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-16675646335170892402007-10-28T13:34:00.000+13:002007-10-28T13:34:00.000+13:00AnonThe reasons I think it’s worth responding to Y...Anon<BR/><BR/>The reasons I think it’s worth responding to Young’s’ arguments are twofold. <BR/><BR/>The first reason is that many of the arguments he gives are not that uncommon. For example the claim that a fetus is not a human being because it lacks sentience is extremely common in fact I read essentially the same argument in a medical ethics text not long ago. Moreover, the attempt to dismiss certain views by noting the crimes of Graham Capill is unfortunately not that uncommon either.So responding to Young’s utilisations of these arguments serve to address the wider problem of people dismissing certain moral stances, stances I think to be correct, on the basis of erroneous arguments. If I can show the flaws in such arguments then that goes some of the way to getting people to reconsider their stance on on these issues. <BR/><BR/>Second, while I think Young’s work is often very poor his arguments not widely recognised as being poor. Many influential people seem to support or rely on his work. Young for example was given a scholarship from the Family Planning Association to do PhD research on the abortion issue. Young was also the research officer of the Abortion Law Reform Association. Dr Margaret Sparrow cites “Dr” Craig Young as an authority in some of her international conferences. Young also seems to have appointed himself the Gay Rights movements expert critic the “religious right” and he is a prolific writer for Gaynz a newsgroup which (for reasons that baffle me) is often seen as highly credible. I have seen Young’s research positively referred to in Express and read Labour Youth magazines recommending that people read his analysis on “the religious right”. A few years ago Young was interviewed on radio as a kind of expert on Conservative Christianity. Similarly, The New Zealand Association of Rationalist Humanists (NZARH) often cite his research in their polemics against Christianity. Young is also regularly cited in Paul Litterick’s fundypost (Recently Russell Brown stated the fundypost kept him and his media colleagues well informed on issues of religion in politics). In light of the influence these groups have its worth pointing out how superficial and terrible the scholarship they rely on is. <BR/><BR/>MattMandMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02694636663826784480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-52003930246813244072007-10-26T14:11:00.000+13:002007-10-26T14:11:00.000+13:00So you're saying that you just can't resist a Spot...So you're saying that you just can't resist a Spotted Dick? <BR/><BR/>Easy targets are still targets ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-17026988123704264492007-10-26T13:36:00.000+13:002007-10-26T13:36:00.000+13:00Yep. Pretty much.Easy targets are still targets.Ma...Yep. Pretty much.<BR/><BR/>Easy targets are still targets.<BR/><BR/>MadeleineMandMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02694636663826784480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-16873371158471281142007-10-26T13:33:00.000+13:002007-10-26T13:33:00.000+13:00So what you are saying is that even if you are sho...So what you are saying is that even if you are shooting fish in a barrel the fish do actually need shooting?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-15178856974785321692007-10-26T13:32:00.000+13:002007-10-26T13:32:00.000+13:00Whilst Craig Young's treatment of me and Phillipa ...Whilst Craig Young's treatment of me and Phillipa Peck and other pro-life women was abhorrent and unethical that is less the driving factor here for us.<BR/><BR/>You see, whilst it is patently obvious to me that Craig Young has the reasoning ability of a steamed pudding it is apparently not so obvious to other people. <BR/><BR/>Despite numerous examples of blatently poor reasoning and statements that scream "ah.. causation?" Craig repeatedly gets published on Gaynz.com.<BR/><BR/>Despute Gaynz.com's complete lack of journalistic integrity, ethics and research skills some people read them and believe the things they say simply because they portray themselves as media. If its in the media it must be true, this guy must know his stuff...<BR/><BR/>You see going after writers with the reasoning ability of steamed puddings is important as long as there are readers out there who lack discernment.<BR/><BR/>MadeleineMandMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02694636663826784480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-48692056074342223382007-10-26T12:58:00.000+13:002007-10-26T12:58:00.000+13:00Okay yeah I knew there were things like that but s...Okay yeah I knew there were things like that but so what? How does that make it interesting to argue with him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-47735987243195196522007-10-26T11:31:00.000+13:002007-10-26T11:31:00.000+13:00I suspect it is because Mr Young "researched" for ...I suspect it is because Mr Young "researched" for his aborted PhD by using a sock puppet and emailing Madeleiene as a left wing catholic woman probing her for personal info on her miscarriage.<BR/><BR/>He befriended Madeleine under this guise and while her guard was down and she was upset he got her to share personal info on her miscarriage with him.<BR/><BR/>I note that this type of tactic is not new for him if you care to click on the link from his name in Matt's post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5710845602477644495.post-36633814782318607772007-10-26T07:16:00.000+13:002007-10-26T07:16:00.000+13:00Why do you keep picking away at this guy who has a...Why do you keep picking away at this guy who has all the reasoning ability of a steamed pudding?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com